Breed Profile: The Weimaraner

Weimaraner_001The Weimaraner, from the beginning of its breed history more than 100 years ago, has been known as the “Gray Ghost”—a good nickname for a gun dog with a silvery coat and somewhat spooky-looking yellow-amber eyes. Originally developed in Germany at the court of Weimar (hence its name), the Weimaraner was successfully bred to be a versatile hunter of upland gamebirds, waterfowl, predators, and big game.

When it arrived in North America, however, several changes came about to reduce the status of this breed as a functional gun dog. Though introduced here in the 1920s, the Weimaraner did not become popular until the 1950s when the Weimaraner Club of America hired a professional publicist to promote them as a “super dog” designed to out-hunt all other versatile breeds. The exaggerated claims created a surge in the number of dogs bred and sold. But when the claims were exposed to the harsh light of reality, the Weimaraner’s popularity and reputation as a gun dog plummeted.

About this same time, the dog show people picked up the Gray Ghost as a flashy favorite for winning ribbons at Westminster. The Weimaraner’s hunting genetics took a downturn with more emphasis on appearance on the show bench than prowess in the field. Though some hunt testers, a few field trialers, and a handful of gamebird hunters kept the Weimaraner’s original purpose alive, the breed had at best a compromised position compared to most other popular versatile breeds.

In the 1990s, the Weimaraner’s reputation as a gun dog took yet another hit when a professional photographer used several Weimaraners for a series of pictures in which the dogs were dressed in people clothes and phony wigs. While this may have created another upturn in the popularity of the dogs among the general public, it further undermined the breed’s original purpose as a hunter.

The good news nowadays is there’s a much brighter future for the breed because of the revival of its role as a hunting dog in North America.

Hunt ‘Em Up
By breeding Weimaraners from field trial stock with dogs imported from Germany, Judy Balog has produced three Versatile Champions in the NAVHDA testing program.

“The field trial bloodlines have offered an increased range and speed in the field and the original German genetics have brought in greater nose sensitivity and hunting intensity,” Balog says. “Generally, our hunting line of Weimaraners is physically a little smaller and has more stamina than many of their American lines from the distant past.

“Our Weimaraners tend to be dynamos that some less experienced hunters and dog owners might find a little harder to train and to handle. That’s why I introduce e-collars early in my dogs’ training program as a good way to shape behavior from the start and to avoid problems later. An e-collar with a remotely activated beeper also makes hunting more efficient and enjoyable, especially when chasing after ruffed grouse around our home in Michigan or when making trips to South Dakota for pheasants.”

For anyone wanting to buy a Weimaraner intended for hunting, Balog recommends looking for proof of the parents’ abilities when considering a pup or started dog.

“Personally see the parents of any for-sale Weimaraner at work on an actual hunt or during a realistic facsimile of a hunting experience,” Balog emphasizes. “There is an old saying that ‘you pay for the puppy, but you get the mom and dad.’ In other words, seeing the parents at work on live gamebirds, whether wild or pen-raised, will tell you a lot about their offspring.

“Check out official credentials,” Balog advises. “Parents with high scores in field trials, AKC or UKC hunt tests, or in the NAVHDA testing programs will most probably produce pups with lots of genuine old-style hunting instincts in them.

To contact Balog, e-mail her at judybalog@chartermi.net or call (231) 938-4426.

Feathers or Fur?
“Weimaraners bred from first generation German imports might tend to be big-game hunters—whether the dog’s owner likes that tendency or not,” says Allen Fine, owner of two German-born 7-year-olds. “On our first hunt for prairie grouse in South Dakota, both my dogs took off after a young buck antelope. By the time I got out my e-collar transmitter, Boz and Rick were over a steep hill and out of sight. Fortunately, both of them came back in 20 minutes—with the young antelope following behind them.”

When the dogs saw the antelope, they both gave chase again. “This time I was ready to deliver maximum stimulation which convinced them that antelope were no fun and were not to be hunted. Since then the same lesson has been taught to educate them about running after deer in Kansas and moose in Minnesota,” Fine says.

“One thing I learned from these unwanted hunting experiences is that my Weimaraners could be taught by using the e-collar to stay away from big game. The dogs could also be persuaded the same way to avoid undesirable encounters with snakes, skunks, raccoons, porcupines, and any other critters out there that can wreck a hunt for gamebirds.”

Hunting in Range
“Fritz was a big runner from the time he was a little puppy,” Ed Truelock says to explain why his 2-year-old Weimaraner had already disappeared way down the field in an AKC Hunt Test. The judges, mounted on horses, were the only ones able to keep up with the speeding, wide-ranging dog. Fritz did find and point a couple of quail, and once the birds were flushed, he was off again at a fast pace to find more of the little birds.

“My first Weimaraner was out of show dog lines and, though he hunted up close, he didn’t hunt very hard or produce much game when we went after quail in Texas or pheasants in Nebraska,” Truelock recalls. “So I looked into Weimaraners from field trial stock and bought Fritz, who had more drive, a better nose, and greater speed—much greater speed, in fact.”

Fritz covered four times more ground in one-fourth the time of Truelock’s first Weimaraner, which was a big problem in any thick cover where the dog couldn’t be seen.

“When hunting ruffed grouse in Michigan last year, I lost Fritz for three hours,” Truelock reports. “After that experience, I got an e-collar with a beeper-locator. And though Fritz still runs fast and far, I can now more easily find him.”

The beeper-locator is also used by Truelock as a communication tool with multiple beeps as a signal for the dog to come in when necessary.

“I lean on the locator button to produce multiple beeps that let Fritz know he should start looking for me when we are in tall prairie grass, dense cattails, or thick timber,” he says.

“By combining the continual beeps with some mild stimulation, I taught Fritz in about a week of training to consistently come in on command, which encourages him to hunt close as a regular habit.”

Training Methods
“Most well-bred Weims that I’ve seen respond well to traditional training techniques,” says Cam Rice, who lives in Michigan where she and her husband regularly hunt ruffed grouse and woodcock. “Teaching basic obedience and doing yard work is pretty much the same as for any other breed of gun dog except that some Weims can get bored with routine exercises. This is mainly because they tend to be too smart to put up with too much repetition. So the trainer needs to understand this and adjust lessons to keep any teaching fresh and different—and entertaining.”

Rice and her husband regularly use their Weimaraners when guiding on hunting preserves for pheasants, bobwhite quail and chukars.

“Several hundred bird contacts at a preserve every year are a good way to test our training techniques and to see how much talent our dogs have,” Rice says. “Watching the dogs point and retrieve several species of pen-raised and released birds is also a good way to evaluate each dog’s desire, nose, cooperation, and tracking ability—something we might not see as much when hunting wild birds. Though we test our Weimaraners in NAVHDA, the hunting preserve tells us a lot about how good each dog is.

“All our Weimaraners are also duck and goose hunters that will handle on blind retrieves out to several hundred yards. In icy water, we put a neoprene vest on our dogs to protect them from the extreme cold,” Rice says. “No, Weimaraners are not as tough as Labradors, but they can fetch a duck or goose from several hundred yards when necessary,” Rice says.

“Though we have only one litter of Weimaraners every once in a while, we do know of other breeders who may have pups for sale. However, we and they will sell dogs only to people who promise to hunt them,” Rice emphasizes. “After 29 years as a detective in the police department, I do know how to get the truth from someone in an interview, ” she adds with a big smile.

Weims in Water
Can a Weimaraner plunge into a frigid pond and make a 200-yard retrieve on a downed Canada goose?

“Of course,” Rice replied.

So we set it up and watched Rice’s dog work. As a NAVHDA Utility Prize I title holder, this dog had earned his degree in the test by doing a successful duck search after months of training to look for live ducks swimming in watery cover similar to where the big honker was now stashed under a pile of cattails.

As expected, the big male took a hand signal to fetch and made a blind retrieve. Though he had seldom retrieved a bird this size, he came swimming back with the 10-pound honker.

“Put a neoprene vest on a Weimaraner and, if trained to do so, most of them will fetch waterfowl in just about any situation,” Rice says.

Early introduction of a pup to water, regular practice in retrieving in a variety of places and lots of opportunities to fetch wild ducks and geese are the combination of ingredients Rice uses to make her Weimaraners dependable waterfowl hunters.

House or Kennel?
When Lori Kenner and her husband Jim decided they would like to have a gun dog, they wanted a breed with a calm temperament.

“We went to look at a litter of Weimaraners about 50 miles from our home and saw the pups’ mom and dad. Both the parents seemed pretty laid back and easy-going with no jumping up or barking when we came into the yard. Because of this impression, we took home two puppies instead of just one,” Kenner says.

“My two Weims have been kennel dogs by day and house dogs by night. This is a combination they taught me as best for all of us,” Kenner says of his 5-year-olds, Nick and Kit. “We wanted to raise both dogs to live in the kennel full-time, but as pups they stayed in the house most of the time because the weather here in Maine can be bitterly cold all spring. So, by the time summer came and they went into the outside kennel run, they decided that was okay during the day—but at night staying inside our house was better.

“From the beginning, both dogs were kept in the downstairs family room where they would lie on throw rugs in the evening to watch television with us then spend the night sleeping in individual crates,” Kenner says. “Though there was an initial period of adjustment to this arrangement, both dogs soon accepted this routine.”

In the outside kennel run, both of Kenner’s dogs were barkers at first, expressing their anxiety at being left alone during the day.

“Because we have neighbors close by, we used ‘bark collars’ to control the noise. Within a week, the problem was pretty much solved and both of them adjusted to the new situation.

“Though some lines of Weimaraners can be high-strung and hard to handle, many lines of this breed have calm temperaments that, with the right early training, can produce gun dogs that can be good house dogs and outside kennel dogs,” Kenner said. “And, in most cases, in the field they will be good gun dogs.”

Weimaraner_002Hunting and Beyond
A good cross section of today’s typical Weimaraners is represented by the three gun dogs owned by Scott Roker and Tresha Moorberg from Lincoln, Neb.

“We have one Weim out of a combination of field trial and show lines, another with good AKC Hunt Test scores along with some NAVHDA credentials, and a third from a rescue program that gave us little information about the dog’s background. All three of them are good hunters and great house dogs,” Roker says.

Like a lot of Weimaraner owners, Roker and Moorberg were attracted to the breed by its color and stately stature. “But we soon learned that there is more to these dogs than their handsome appearance,” Moorberg says. “All three of our Weims are solid hunters on pheasants and quail, which for us was a pleasant surprise because we were warned by some so-called dog experts that many lines of Weims had most of the hunting instinct bred out of them.”

Because Weimaraners are such high energy canines, Roker and Moorberg exercise their dogs for an hour every day. “A half-hour run in the morning and 20 minutes or so of dummy fetching in the late afternoon keeps the dogs in shape. But what really helps to improve their hunting abilities is to train them for AKC hunt tests and field trials and for NAVHDA testing,” Roker said.

“Preparing for and participating in these events between hunting seasons makes the dogs perform better during the hunting season. And though this probably applies to all hunting dogs, this practice seems to work out well for our Weimaraners.”

On Its Way
“Your best Weimaraners hunt as well as any good German shorthaired pointer,” someone in the pheasant hunting party remarked as one of Balog’s Weims came racing across a cut cornfield with a rooster pheasant it had tracked, pointed and was now retrieving.

After a few moments of thoughtful silence, Balog responded, “I’ll take that as a real compliment—and a testimony that the Gray Ghost can be well on its way to returning as a true hunter on the same level as any other popular versatile gun dog.”

  • Tim

    Great article…I have one of Judy's Weims and she is a hunting, pointing, honoring, retrieving machine at just 2 years! And a terrific pet and family member too. I would buy another from Judy in a heartbeat, and I am a GSP fan for many years.

    • Judy Balog

      Thanks for the kind words Tim!

  • Janness

    We have two Weims, neither one of them hunt, except for chipmunks. I'll bet they could though, one of them is excellent at pointing. Great dogs, with a great personality!

  • Judy Balog

    I received an email last night that questioned the use of e-collars on “young dogs”. Just to clarify the above quoted statement in this article, I do not encourage the use of an e-collar on a dog that is very young unless it is chasing deer etc. I do however have all of my dogs wear the e-collars while hunting and training but I will only use them during training when the dog is mentally ready to be steadied through shot which is around 2 yrs of age give or take.

    One more clarification regarding my breeding program. I have never crossed my American field bred dogs to German bred dogs although a European cross may be in the plans down the road someday!

  • Dawna

    This is a great article about the short coated Weimaraner. To bad Gerry didn't include any information about our wonderful Longhair variety and the accomplishments with them. I supplied him with pictures and information but he didn't include. Bummer as they are outstanding field and water dogs too!
    Dawna

  • Dogwilling.ca

    Decent article, but as mentioned above, no information on the Longhaired variety. For a more in-depth look at the breed, including the LH Weim, see http://pointingdogblog.blogspot.ca/2011/09/breed-…

    • Rick

      Actually, there is a sidebar about the longhaired variety on page 43 of the June/July issue, where this article originally appeared. For those of you who aren't subscribers, that issue is currently available on newsstands (hint, hint). –The Editor

  • Cam Rice

    Well said Judy, it covers the e-collar use well!

    I wanted to point out that one of my dogs was given credit he didn't deserve as well. It was stated that he was a UT 1 when in fact he has never tested UT, he is a WCA, RDX boy and excels at blind retrieves but no UT!

    Lots of great info about weims in general. Love the cover shot of baby daddy!!!

  • Dawna

    As a professional gun dog trainer I have trained 5 Longhaired and many short coted Weims. Crockett, a LH Weim, owned by Dawna Miller is one of the finest I have trained, short or Longhaired. Dawna and Craig have done a good job of promoting the LH in the USA and Canada.

  • Ed Erickson

    As a professional gun dog trainer I have trained 5 Longhaired and many short coated Weims. Crockett, a LH Weim, owned by Dawna Miller is one of the finest I have trained, short or Longhaired. Dawna and Craig have done a good job of promoting the LH in the USA and Canada.

  • Dawna

    The first post I added for Ed because it wouldn't post for him…I see it finally posted for him. Ed's website
    http://www.abkvc.com

  • Tresha Moorberg

    I wanted to say that our rescue didn't actually come from rescue- he came as an owner surrender. The whole story on him was he had been to a pro trainer who broke his spirit. He no longer would hunt or retrieve. he would shy away from people, and run from birds if he found one in the field. That was about 18 mos ago. In two mos time with help of our pro friend, he earned a couple JH passes! he currently has 3 of his 4 needed Senior Hunter passes! His point is stellar, and his retrieve is SPOT ON! he is a terrific gentle boy, and loves everyone two or 4 legged!

  • Julie Bering

    My Weim is 8 weeks old. When should we start training and how? I never had a dog before and my husband wants to hunt with her. I am home with her all day so I thought maybe I could help.

    • Scott Roker

      My best advise is find a good trainer in your area and ask if he will help to show you how to train your dog. That way you can do a lot of the work at home

  • Chris

    Great article, was wondering how long it would be before they did make the cover and story. Having grown up with weims i have always considered them one of the best hunting breeds (if you could find the right HUNTING parents). I have 2 wiems from the PM ( Dawna Miller) line that i hunt from August to April from ND down to TX. Very smart dogs, have learned how to hunt the late season running pheasant very well. Some of you on here will not agree but other venues for trials is the National Upland Classic associated with the NKC, or the Bird Dog Challenge.

  • Roger

    I just put a deposit on a weim – this would be my second one. I really want this one to hunt but neither parents are hunters but their is in the bloodline. Am I making a mistake in going with a dog that is not coming from a big hunting background. Again, I am not a professional hunter but it is becoming a favorite past time in the field and on the water. Thanks

    • Judy Balog

      I would highly recommend getting a pup from a breeder who breeds proven hunting dogs. If the parents don’t hunt you may get lucky but I would suggest finding another litter.

  • Greg

    Back on April 17 after reading the article on Weim's,I sent in a responce saying that I had "rescued" my Weim and that I had trained her to pheasent hunt.She's been hunting for over 4 years. Also that I had her certified to be a Therapy Dog and that we visit 3 hospital/care centers,one being a VETERANS' Home.A little "give back" being a veteran myself.After a few great responses that day from other "rescue" Weim owners I notice that my post and the others are no longer seen.Except for the one that thinks we "pat ourselves on our backs".I assure you we/I dont.The thanks I get from our visits with my Weim by the Veterans,patients,visiters and staff is enough. Greg.

  • Colleen

    Where can one find info on training a dog to hunt. I know it comes naturally & my weim loves water, but my blue is scared of thunder so gun shots will probably scare him too. My bitch doesn't mind gunshot & retrieves well.

  • Wolfgang

    16 years now with Weims, I have seen them climb fences, jump 5 ft. fences, open door knobs with their mouth, catch birds out of the air, hunt deer upland (never ducks cause of the thin fur), catch a fish….yes catch a fish and come home to sleep with me like none of it ever happened….they are sensitive, bred to be very close to the master, (VERY CLOSE) NO KENNELS, misunderstood and hunters would appreciate them more if they knew more about what pleases them and how they comprehend and learn….nothing like a lab and I love labs too….Weims have the closest brains to humans i have ever seen…..I have had a golden, a german shepard, lab and an irish, butTwo Weimaraners….more challenging but more fun, excitement and return.

    • wolfgang

      hunt deer and birds upland

  • RSD

    What brands of neoprene vests fit Weims the best? Most of them seem to be designed for labs.

    Judy, do you have a website with some of your dogs pedigrees?

  • nomercy2290

    Not sure if anyone ever reads this but thought I might give it a try. My husband and I are trying to rehome our two Weimaranres. Purebred, have the papers. The female is blue and the male is grey. Good outdoor dogs and wonderful hunters, just need some guidance. We lost our home and have been trying our best to keep our dogs but unfortunately they're not doing well in an apartment. Please email if you're in Ohio no_mercy2290@yahoo.com if you're interested. Can send pics!

  • dylanathome

    my son has a weirmaraner who has started to nip my grandsons friends sometimes and he doesnt like male dogs. He is 4 years old, absolutely lovely but we are at the stage what is he going to do next, bite someone. My son is very controlling of him he knows his limits. we dont want to have to put him down but its at the point where everyone is worried where young children are concerned, help

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  • Greg

    My Weim's 5 years old and I got her from a shelter at 7 months in 2007.Started training her on a pheasant wing soon afterwards and just finished her 5th season. She's a great hunter and family dog.She is also certified as a therapy dog,so we make the the rounds at the VA home etc.The comments I get on her from the patients,visiters and staff are great.I see it as a little give back from a Weim and her owner that met at a shelter.Great magazine.

  • SaraRenee

    Greg- I also have rescue Weims that LOVE to hunt! Nice to know there are others around.

  • Kelly

    We also have two rescue Weims that have been great bird dogs for us. Wouldn't have any other breed and wouldn't get them anywhere else but a Weim rescue :) .

  • Greg

    SaraRenee,thanks.They don't range too far out,do they?What's their weight?

  • Dawna

    Ummmm what? IDK what that means..weird

  • Greg

    Kelly,thanks.That's great.Makes me want to think….about getting another Weim.From a rescue ofcource.But that's not going to happen.

  • SaraRenee

    My older rescue girl really ranges out, and is hard to keep track of at times. She's all hunt and very fun, but a very independent girl with little regard to teamwork, which makes it frustrating at times. Forget about her honoring another dog, either. She's a piece of work, but exciting to watch and be out with. My other rescue bitch has a nice medium range, ok nose, and is a wonderful retriever. They vary in weight from 48 lb on one to 53 lb on the other.

  • Tresha Moorberg

    I guess I don't understand the violin animation…. My post was not a whine, but to clarify & brag. Our rescue boy-Gunner is a great dog who had a rough start. A friend of ours directed us to his first owner because we have weims, and he thought maybe we sould be able to help the dog. He has been nothing but a joy.

  • Sister Agnes

    You people that continually pat yourselves on the back by saying 'rescue' dog this and 'rescue' dog that really make me ill. Do you also introduce your children as 'adopted' or 'step' or 'illegitimate'? "Hi Nancy, this is my cancer-stricken daughter Mary" or My 'step' son is going out to play with my 'real' son.

    Do you see where you look foolish doing that? Enough with the 'rescue' crap like it's some exclusive club that only you are worthy enough to attend.

  • Scott Roker

    I think what they are saying is you can train a rescue dog to do the same things that you can do with a dog you buy from a breeder. That these dogs don't have to be put down just because they did not work for their first owner.

  • Greg

    My Weim gets out there once in a while,but I call her back.Fun to watch.Good on birds.She's a big girl, over ………well I don't mention her wait.She looks over our kitchen table with ease.My vet says she's fine.All I have to do is keep food out of site. Greg.